Mario Vavti
Imagine something like this with decentralised access control.
Sandstorm
Sandstorm
Real-time collaborative web productivity suite behind the firewall.
Maria Karlsen
Now I won't be able to drive without a smartphone. I don't bloody want a smartphone. They don't bloody work under metal roofs, unlike this antique Nokia clamshell which works anywhere.
NSW to be the first state to trial digital drivers' licences
NSW to be the first state to trial digital drivers' licences
The NSW Government is pushing ahead with plans to become the first state with digital drivers' licences.
Fabio
Raymond Monret
Alexandre Hannud Abdo
I will be bringing Zot nomadic identity to ActivityPub - just as I brought it to Diaspora and OStatus (you probably didn't know that). Other systems/platforms can choose to ignore it (as they currently do), but everything they require to process and deal with nomadic identity will be there for them to consume if they ever wish to join us in the 21st century.
Carolus Rex
Seth Martin
Sean Tilley
Manuel
Hubzilla @ sasiflo
Haakon Meland Eriksen (Parlementum)
phellmes
elmussol
King Emir#
paulfree14
It's fixed now.
They are very different - although I already implemented support for diaspora account migrations a month or two ago. That is an account "move". Ours is a "copy". But it's a first step. Move is easy. Copy is a lot harder.
Diaspora still doesn't provide an import of the data - which hopefully will happen this year or next. Ironically we've supported import of Diaspora account data files for a few years now - but it's probably broken as of the current 0.7 release since some of the data structures changed.
Diaspora still doesn't provide an import of the data - which hopefully will happen this year or next. Ironically we've supported import of Diaspora account data files for a few years now - but it's probably broken as of the current 0.7 release since some of the data structures changed.
@Mike Macgirvin I'm really interested in the move of a diaspora account to hubzilla. how do I do this?
Just load their export file into our channel import page. We were not able to import content until the most recent Diaspora release because the only content that was in the files was your own posts with no comments or likes; and your own comments didn't have a GUID so we couldn't correlate them to real world posts. This has now been fixed in Diaspora so the tool needs to be modified to import the content now that it is supplied; and verify that the existing data formats haven't changed.
Anyway what is currently imported is the channel information, the profile, and all the connections. (The most important thing with migrating your data is keeping your identity and friends). It sends out a new friend request to everybody in the connection list, because that's the only way this could be done previously. With the new Diaspora code we should be able to send an account_migration message and the connections should be transferred automatically. I haven't yet worked on this because the pod I use as a test site hasn't yet upgraded, and I'm currently working on 26 other projects.
Anyway what is currently imported is the channel information, the profile, and all the connections. (The most important thing with migrating your data is keeping your identity and friends). It sends out a new friend request to everybody in the connection list, because that's the only way this could be done previously. With the new Diaspora code we should be able to send an account_migration message and the connections should be transferred automatically. I haven't yet worked on this because the pod I use as a test site hasn't yet upgraded, and I'm currently working on 26 other projects.
Accidentally left a tap on this morning whilst filling the water trough for the horses - and went off to work. 22,000 litres of water - gone. Ouch. #raindance
As someone who carts a lot of water, I felt pain just reading that. I would be still crying now I think.
My lucky day. The #raindance worked.
Long Way From Home - Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee
by PlayMoreBlues on YouTube
Cool. Hubzilla (and red)'s "profile things" map directly to ActivityPub. So "Bob likes Amy's beard" or "Amy likes Bob's shoes" translates directly into something in that network without requiring any special namespace or hacks. I was worried about that one. Now I'm down to the really unusual ones like the poke variants and mood variations and file activities. But I'll see what I can do..
I'm not totally surprised by that. Haven't you deliberately tried to adhere where possible to existing standards for a long time? Perhaps the surprise is that ActivityPub didn't completely reinvent the wheel? I remember asking you about ActivityStreams stuff a while back.
Practically speaking, I wouldn't hassle much over the poke and mood stuff, given that it seems very few people use those features. At the same time, I suspect you often include those kinds of things more as a proof of technical principle and as an example to developers who wish to implement something similar. Almost everything I've wanted to do in Hubzilla over the years already had an example somewhere waiting in the sprawling codebase.
Practically speaking, I wouldn't hassle much over the poke and mood stuff, given that it seems very few people use those features. At the same time, I suspect you often include those kinds of things more as a proof of technical principle and as an example to developers who wish to implement something similar. Almost everything I've wanted to do in Hubzilla over the years already had an example somewhere waiting in the sprawling codebase.
Klaus
Alex
Beni Grind
So there's now the website blockadblock.com - dedicated to busting through adblockers.
[business opportunity]
I notice there is currently no registration for blockblockadblock.com.
[business opportunity]
I notice there is currently no registration for blockblockadblock.com.
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@mike Since they use javascript it's pretty easy to get around their prevention method.
So now I've got HTTP Signatures (draft-cavage-http-signatures-07) working in ActivityPub. The bigger question is how to enforce them. I think the right thing to do is just indicate signing success or failure as we already do in Hubzilla but not actually block an unsigned (or even a failed signature) activity. That might be a config option, but we'll leave it turned off by default since it's anti-federation (and one of my bigger gripes about Diaspora).
We should also probably block or indicate posts that are unsigned after receiving any successfully signed post since we then know they are capable of signing it - so if they suddenly don't it's likely to be a forgery.
Anyway, there are a few posts today that indicate Mastodon is pretty much ready to go with ActivityPub. So are we. I've tried to reply and work out some interop testing but I think I'm blocked pretty widely on that network and the messages have been lost in space.
We should also probably block or indicate posts that are unsigned after receiving any successfully signed post since we then know they are capable of signing it - so if they suddenly don't it's likely to be a forgery.
Anyway, there are a few posts today that indicate Mastodon is pretty much ready to go with ActivityPub. So are we. I've tried to reply and work out some interop testing but I think I'm blocked pretty widely on that network and the messages have been lost in space.
For anybody who wants to mess with this - first make sure you're on current dev and stay current
If you're connecting to a channel that is multi-protocol capable, and you want to connect with that channel using a specific protocol; you can connect using the syntax
[protocol]web.address
Valid protocols are determined by what plugins you have installed, but can be one of 'zot', 'diaspora', 'ostatus', 'activitypub', or 'feed'.
ActivityPub does not use webfinger so you'll usually be connecting with the URL of the person's profile page. For Hubzilla channels it would be https://macgirvin.com/channel/nickname
Basic posts and comments are currently working. Most things that don't work in Diaspora won't work in ActivityPub either. There may be privacy and security issues until the dust settles, so if you're worried about this, please wait for an official release.
If you're connecting to a channel that is multi-protocol capable, and you want to connect with that channel using a specific protocol; you can connect using the syntax
[protocol]web.address
Valid protocols are determined by what plugins you have installed, but can be one of 'zot', 'diaspora', 'ostatus', 'activitypub', or 'feed'.
ActivityPub does not use webfinger so you'll usually be connecting with the URL of the person's profile page. For Hubzilla channels it would be https://macgirvin.com/channel/nickname
Basic posts and comments are currently working. Most things that don't work in Diaspora won't work in ActivityPub either. There may be privacy and security issues until the dust settles, so if you're worried about this, please wait for an official release.
Seeing a teeny bit of blue haze in the Blue Mountains. Spring is definitely on its way, though we're still likely to get a few more frosts and "cold winds from hell".
loadaverage.org is back. It's only been down/migrating for what, a month (?) or thereabouts.
Nomadic identity folks. It's not just a good idea. It's a bloody great idea.
Nomadic identity folks. It's not just a good idea. It's a bloody great idea.
High Range, Australia, last edited: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 13:19:40 +1000
ActivityPub:
[master 8647648] pubcrawl: friending, approvals, posting and comments now working
[edit: also likes]
[master 8647648] pubcrawl: friending, approvals, posting and comments now working
[edit: also likes]
maiyannah
A lot of folks have rightly questioned why I'm so hot and cold on ActivityPub. It's horribly flawed. I mean absolutely miserably flawed. BUT - it's also designed as a walled garden, and I'm watching certain players who divided other free communities turn their attention and their divisive ways in that direction with an intent to dominate and divide like they've done elsewhere. I'm drawing a line in the sand. I smashed Diaspora's walls. I fully intend to do the same here. ActivityPub will be free and open to all. It will federate with other technologies. I might lose this battle, but I'm standing up for what's right and refusing to accept a W3C mandated walled garden.
First off, grabbed a #homebrew. Been one of those days. Pulled out the old resonator and changed the strings.
Was in the mood for some South American folk songs. And by "South American" I mean Mississippi and the Bayou country. Not to be confused with Andean folk songs (which require a different guitar). First up "I'll Fly away", a delta prison song. Then a rousing little boogie I wrote called "Stankie Sadie". May the blues be with you all.
Was in the mood for some South American folk songs. And by "South American" I mean Mississippi and the Bayou country. Not to be confused with Andean folk songs (which require a different guitar). First up "I'll Fly away", a delta prison song. Then a rousing little boogie I wrote called "Stankie Sadie". May the blues be with you all.
HTTP Signatures are pretty much under control now. Friending works. Outbox collection is fetchable. Posting sort of works.
Moving forward....
Moving forward....
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Something about Twitter style interactions turns most everybody on those networks into an Aunt Dorothy. You know - the one that can't stop talking for two seconds even though she has absolutely nothing to say. Luckily we've got connection filters and the affinity tool.
I find myself torn between the two formats. On the one hand, microblogging seems to encourage saying whatever is on your mind, and the engagement of it increases the frequency of messages sent back and forth. Mastodon has been super fun to use for exactly that reason. When you say something particularly funny or insightful, the engagement feels like an endorphin rush as people reshare or respond to whatever you said. Unfortunately, this behavior can lead to some really toxic dynamics, and rampant pseudo-intellectual post-ironic hipster spiels.
Contrasting against "the fediverse" (OStatusWeb) the Federation is generally more pleasant. People explain themselves a little more effectively, and the emphasis seems to lean more towards conversation, rather than "spontaneuous feverish communication". Long-form content takes longer to write, there's more to articulate, and different conventions for formatting might be used.
Contrasting against "the fediverse" (OStatusWeb) the Federation is generally more pleasant. People explain themselves a little more effectively, and the emphasis seems to lean more towards conversation, rather than "spontaneuous feverish communication". Long-form content takes longer to write, there's more to articulate, and different conventions for formatting might be used.
Einer von Vielen
We're off to see the blizzard...
At least this time it isn't yet another 'lizard of oz'.
'The Blizzard of Oz': It's a winter wonderland at Aussie snowfields
At least this time it isn't yet another 'lizard of oz'.
'The Blizzard of Oz': It's a winter wonderland at Aussie snowfields
Australia's powder hounds rejoice after a weekend deluge of the white stuff — dubbed the Blizzard of Oz — creates a winter wonderland at Australia's snowfields.
A couple of things became obvious trying to bolt http signatures onto activitypub.
1. The key_id pretty much has to be the actor URL
2. You can't proxy, relay, or forward anything that is signed. The best you can do is forward a pointer and let the destination fetch the original itself.
So it will work but you're going to suffer a performance hit on relayed activities. Magic-envelopes would be a much better way of doing this since you can package a magic-envelope (the signed data and signature) inside something else (like an activity). Linked Data Signatures could also do this, but as of today, cross platform LDS is vapourware; and likely to continue to be so for at least the next 1-3 years.
1. The key_id pretty much has to be the actor URL
2. You can't proxy, relay, or forward anything that is signed. The best you can do is forward a pointer and let the destination fetch the original itself.
So it will work but you're going to suffer a performance hit on relayed activities. Magic-envelopes would be a much better way of doing this since you can package a magic-envelope (the signed data and signature) inside something else (like an activity). Linked Data Signatures could also do this, but as of today, cross platform LDS is vapourware; and likely to continue to be so for at least the next 1-3 years.
More specifically the actor URL of the *sender*, who may be a completely different entity than the actor who created the activity. And that's why #2 .
Anyway my current thinking (which could change tomorrow) is to support HTTPSig because that's likely to have general support - even though it's an inferior technology for this purpose. I'll also support salmon sigs for those who want better performance and have a distribution model based on relaying comments. Then we'll wait and see which way the wind blows but at least have something useful and functional while we sit around and blow soap bubbles and wait for LDS to be a thing.
I should have ActivityPub connecting/following working both directions now; or pretty close to it. Another day or three and we may be ready to start passing some text messages back and forth.
I'm reminded of the film "The Day After" back in the 80s -
I'm reminded of the film "The Day After" back in the 80s -
This is Lawrence... is there anybody out there? Anybody at all ...